Lets make our own!!!

Struggler, your awesome. You reminded me of when I first learned how to blend my own mixes. All of your ingredient’s look good, I would start with mostly coco and maybe a little sphagnum. Keep charts of your recipes so you know which batch worked better than the others. Let us know what you create Mad Scientist Struggler.

D Man, Black Gold is a great soil. But it sound like with your outdoor it might be cheaper and better results if you look into your local nurseries to see if they have a designer potting soil that they make with worm castings in it at a better bulk rate. Or you could add your own castings, I love adding worm casting as a top dress every time I transplant. That is a SUPER BONUS that you have your own worm farm you lucky dog ~~~;-D

I haven’t purposely added worms, but I do my own worm farm and when I mix soils for planting some get mixed in. They are red worms and seem to do fine. I wouldn’t recommend just adding worms only, but I would recommend starting a worm farm and using your own castings. It gives you more control over what they are feed. My worms are vegetarians, lettuce, bananas, and paper. If you already haven’t started one, they are a piece of cake to manage and are cheep to buy. Good luck!!

ok, so tyhe past few days i’ve gone back to the books of dr.’s rosenthal and frank, researching soil amendments specifically for veg plants that are:  a)   N high,  b) rapidly available,  c)  veganic and am having a hard time.  the best i can come up with is blood meal which is obviously not veganic.  i read a comment by dr . kushman somewhere stating that a small amount of guano in the beginning is acceptable.  im wondering if the same is true for blood meal?  ive used it in the past and my veg plants just love it.  will blood meal break down fast enough?

the next-closest option i can find is cottonseed meal but it breaks down much slower, and i dont have any experience using it.

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did a small test of my own mix and somehow worked perfectly with the vegamatrix line

For 10 5 gal buckets

4cf coco (general organic bricks)

2cf coco chips (plant it)

.5cf forest humus (genral organics)

.2cf mushroom compost (mt.eden organics)

.5 cup soybean meal 7-2-1 (down to earth)

.5 cup cottonseed meal 6-2-1 (down to earth)

1 cup alfalfa meal 2.5-0.5-2.5 (down to earth)

1 cup kelp meal 1-0.1-2 (down to earth)

1/3 cup azomite 0-0-0.2 (down to earth)

1/3 cup dolomite lime (grow more)

10 oz of mykos (extreme)

2 cups oatmeal

1 cup powdered flax seed meal

I mix it well and let it ait for a month in 80 degree heat 24 hours a day.

then just follow the vefamatrix line with og microbial powdered tea. Also since there is dolomite in the soil already its up to you to decide how much calmag to use.

100% veganic grown medicine

ever since i heard kyle kushman talk about 2%ers, now that changed my way of cultivating veganic.

i am in no way promoting vegamtix what so ever im just sharing a mix of soil i made and happened to use the vegamatrix line with it.

i have use general orfanics with this soil also and had great results. In fact to this day i use general orgaics over vegamatrix only because of cost.

Kyle my man you need to make those bottles a cheaper.

Recently us at k.a.n.g.u. (kick ass ninja growers union)(kick ass never give up)(also no name guys from the canna grow expo) have been deciding on the medium additives for it. We of course were looking for a nice soil, something along the lines of fertilome, which is sphagnum, perlite, and dolomite lime. We have used this soil with okay results and were looking to boost it for the summer season where we plan to run a few 4x4x2 raised beds at our “dojo”. In our research we found the subcool method which follows these ingredients:

Subcool Super Soil

• 8 ten gallon bags of high quality Organic Potting Soil  Such as “Roots Organic Soil”

• 25 – 50 pounds of Organic Earthworm Castings

• 5 pounds of Blood Meal (12-0-0)

• 5 pounds of Bloom Bat Guano ( 0-5-0)

• 5 pounds Fish Bone Meal ( 3-16-0)

• 3 pounds Rock Phosphate (0-3-0)

• 3/4 cup Epsom Salt

• 1 cup Dolomite Lime

• 1/2 cup Azomite

• 2 table spoons (Tbs.) powdered Humic Acid

For us this translated to the following recipe for our success:

• .4 of  a yard(12 cubic foot) of organic local soil mixed with perlite and sphagnum or 4 bags of Fertilome Ultimate Potting Mix

• 30 pounds of Wiggle Worm (Will have extra from bulk order if anyone is interested)

• 5 pounds of Blood Meal (12-0-0)

• 5 pounds of Bloom Bat Guano ( 0-7-0)

• 2.5 pounds Bone Meal (3-15-0)

• 2.5 pounds Fish Bone Meal ( 3-16-0)

• 3 Cups Oyster Shell (big r oyster shell)

• 3 Cups Alfalfa Meal (1-0.1-2)

• 1 cup Garden Lime

• 3/4 cup Epsom Salt

• 2 cup Azomite (0-0-0.2)

• 2 table spoons (Tbs.) powdered Humic Acid (45% Humate)

• the rest of the ingredients can be found here.

We will make 17 yards of this mix in order to fill in the area needed for the subcool layer. After mixed and placed in 4x4x2 raised beds ,with no under barrier, we will fill the rest of the remaining area with one of the following as the base soil above the subcool:(still debating)

• Fertilome (402 3 cu. ft. bags)

• Red’s Premium Biochar Blend (34 yards)

• Custom local mix of sphagnum(not local) 50%, perlite 20%,  compost 30%

This is where we, K.A.N.G.U., stand and are looking for the direction of the greats..

THanx!

Shout out to KyleKushman and LightSpeedGrows at the Canna Grow Expo!! We started our first vegamatrix plants today. pictures shall follow to show the progress and difference between our organic solution and vegamatrix! here goes nothing!

Hello Kangu15,

It was great to meet you guys and that looks like a good outdoor mix but like driver said some of that stuff you want to mix won’t be available in that pot till the second growing season. The best is to bake your own batch this summer and use it for next season that soil will be amazing we do a one year “brew” on the soil for outdoors. There are a few good liquid guanos out and I can point you in the right direction if you want. You guys will have to post and let me know how those starter kits you got are working out.

As always LightSpeedGrows,

Have a great growing day with a feel good vibe!