First Vegamatrix grow looking really bad, please help?

well I’m not the expert but here what i think with what i know. first off cut your amp it from 2 ml a gallon to 1 ml a gallon. be sure to use your microbes once a week or every other week. next your ph is to high. you want ph for coco and soil around 5.5-6.0 with 5.5-5.7 being best. my ph is at 5.4 after i mix it up. and i do not adjust. when people use a ph of 6.3 or higher up to seven, what happens is the soil ph rises and eventually causes issues. next problem is not user if you use 5 gallons all the time but it really a waste for indoor gardening. plants don’t even come close to using all that space. you want a pot size that will dry in 3 – 4 days. also when transplanting you want to water the pot before transferring and transfer into dry soil. do not water until leaves droop, when that happens water about half as normal so the roots can move through the dirt looking for moisture. so i mention this, because it looks like your starting to get deficiency from too much water causing a root lock up with lack of oxygen. no more spraying until soil drys. when soil drys give half strength or plain water.  also while plants can grow in ph of 5.5-7.0. they can really only take a few weeks of  waterings of 6.5-7.0. i also suggest inly foliar feeding with hard and quick. amp it is a microflora or something like that. i forget exactly. kyle explains it on an interview and I’m sure lightspeed can help you on that info. otherwise don’t panic too much, looks not to bad.  also not sure if you did same day, but topping and transplanting should be done on separate days in order not to stress plant to much.

I had some of this going on in my grow, I had to stop spraying, and let my pots dry out, and feed just plain water. Started feeding 10 ml grow, 5 ml bloom, 7 ml boost, 1o ml prymezyme, every other feeding 1.75 ml, and OG Tea all per gallon. If my run off ppm’s are over 1000 in veg, I plain water. Also, I wasn’t allowing my pots to dry out enough, they were lighter than after watering, but ther was a whole other level beyond that, I’m figuring that out now.

I use 10 ml of grow, 5 ml of bloom and boost, 10 ml of zym and 1 ml of amp it per gallon for a veg plant that has three internodes or more. I personally feed about three times, then give plain water then half dose then start cycle again. I also inter switch the microbes each watering. And I use the og tea tsp per gal, og web star tsp per gal, and the og pure tsp per gal, switched out every watering so the plants are always getting a good dose of different stuff.

As far as your issue with next watering, I know the urge to fix now is strong young sky walker, but it is best to let dry out, water with plain water maybe one feeding then half dose till you see recovery with normal yellowing from nitrogen def. on the older big leaves, once you see this I would start giving full dose. Also I would give maybe two solo cups worth of water per watering for the first two weeks after transplant. Then give three depending on how fast they drink. When you plant is having to be fed every 4 ish day in veg using 4-5 solo cups worth of water I would say you could start to flower. Also as I’ve said before, indoor a 3 gallon is best and a root maker is the best I think, I have compared to other pots and 5 gallon air pots and it out performs easily. And for indoors you want plant 3-5 feet high so a 3 gallon is perfect for that. With 5 gallon you will need to grow long and tie down a lot to get good yield. You have to consider a 1 k light has 4 ish feet of penetration. So if your plant if 4 feet high you will get nice even bud structure all around etc. just do a 3 gal with more branching and tie down where all bud sites are getting light during flower.

Rootmaker’s are a type of pot, they are what I will be flowering in this go around. Driver also turned me on to them. They are a rigid plastic pot with air holes that help air prune roots as they grow down through the soil. I haven’t transplanted my plants into them yet thinking in about 10-14 days.

I had to let some of my plants dry out for 12 days, from oversized plant potting. After You let them dry out all the way it will cause the roots to expand if you let them recover, they will start drinking much faster. This grow started completely different for me than last grow. It was much smoother last go, I’m finally getting back on schedule with help from Driver.

That’s a very tastey looking bud. My grow seems to be about 1 month from starting in large pots too early. It’s a common mistake, I should be on target to flower at the end of the month. Love hearing of your plant’s turn around. Good luck growing.

MT, coco is a type of hydro medium. however when using coco in a container and using as a replacement for soil, then it becomes a soilless soil medium. this means that it will give you growth rates and yields similar to hydroponic but with the safety and insurance and ease of using soil. so i don’t know what people are doing when they are keeping there coco moist, but when i do that, plants turn to shit. every time i go out of town and water heavy, when i come back, plants have noticeable bad differences. so coco can get suffocated.

first off, veganic growing has little to no salt build up. when watering soil and cannabis especially, it prefers a dry to moist soil. when coco is saturated this is not the what canna thrives in. when someone waters, the water flows down pretty much in the same areas time after time. salt build up is more in a  soil or half and half mixes not coco. generally when using vegan nutrients with coco, the plants will use whatever given to them. most people are probably getting what looks like build up issues from over watering.

Yeah I only got half this information from forums my first grow,  and almost killed my plants. I was feeding normal ppm’s, watering to near saturation but no runoff, was using hydro nutes, got salt build up pretty quick, was near/and in some cases had root rot. It was horrible, plants had the angry claw but we’re intensely dark green, and purple stems.

the only way to constantly feed and water coco is with a drip system or a wick system, both which can be used as for soil application as well. peat moss and coco are very similar and both will get water lock if watered to much. the only people who are watering coco everyday are using 80% perlite and 2-% coco allowing proper drying day to day. there is no way to constantly water a medium that hold 20x more water than soil. when coco expands with water you can see it swell up getting tighter together, this is why its almost a must to use perlite with coco. even using oxygenated water is not enough. i challenge anyone to water full amount everyday with runoff each time. i promise your plants will be dead in 3-4 weeks if not sooner. coco in a pot has to be treated just like soil. even the vegamatrix 2.0, that will be designed for true hydroponics. coco in pots is not hydroponic per say, its a type of hydro growing that is treated like soil. my understanding vegamatrix 2.0 is for dwc, flood and drain, ebb and flow, etc.

also checking ppm is not necessary unless using homemade compost teas or doing hydroponic. i have checked ppm level maybe 6 times in 16 years.

angry claw is caused from too much nitrogen generally and is why the plants were a super dark green. too much moisture can cause all problems depending on which line used.

i use ancient forest, perlite, worm castings and coco for a mix, i alway have to let dry completely or yellowing etc will begin.

Hello Malu fizzgig,

Welcome and it looks like Driver and the Kid have been giving you some great advice! I also can’t wait for 2.0 and with the way Vegamatrix is now you can mix up a large reservoir and feed your plants with a pump and drip stakes, but you can only mix what you are going to need for your feedings over a 12-24hour period i have a auto feed that I set up that i do that with and it works great!

As always LightSpeedGrows,

Have a great growing day with a feel good vibe!