How to foliar feed?

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  • #39552

    groninja
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    Hello can someone explain the most superior way to foliar feed?

    Has anyone experienced leaf burn with a foliar application of Hard n Quick combined with Azamax or Organocide?

    Some say that light is an important factor.I have always applied foliar spray during the dark cycle with at least 3-4 hours dark time. This gives time for leaf to dry to avoid leaf burn from surface being wet and receiving HPS light.

    Also is spray(squirt/pressure) intensity on leaf surface a cause for physical leaf damage?

    Big ups to GreenDream thanx for leading me to Vegamatrix.

     

    #39554

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Big Ups to Green Dream, our Brother.

    GroNinja welcome to the Kyle Kushman GroCommunity ~~~;-D.

    Living up here in the NorthWest the GroBro’s and I aren’t to fond of foliar spraying to often, when it came time to test the Hard N Quick I was foliar spraying with it and noticed what it was doing to my plants visually right away and I knew right away I was keeping it in the Arsenal. The OG strains were becoming more bushy, the stems and leaf’s were thicker and the initial flower stretch was half the stretch as before with more flower sites. But I was still doing the pest/fungicide foliar spray on separate days, I didn’t like that, it was to much foliar for the high humidity of the PNW.

    So I decided I was gonna run a test on a few plants using Azamax and Hard N Quick together as a combo spray and it was a perfect combination. Hard N Quick is a main Cytokin (natural plant hormone) concentrated from Nodosum Ascophyllum. As long as you are using an Organic or Natural pesticide/fungicide it will combine well with Hard N Quick. I have been using several different brand organic and natural pesticides/fungicides with Hard N Quick for the last 2 1/2 years and have never burned 1 plant.

    I’m like you GroNinja I prefer to foliar spray with the lights off, I usually spray right when the lights turn off so they have the night to dry. There are now certain brand Surfactants that you can add to your foliar sprays and they say these safe Surfactants you add to your foliar spray makes it safe to spray with the lights on.

    I think it’s safe to foliar spray as long as your not ripping leaves or breaking stems you are safe, no Fire Extinguishers or pressure sprayers ~~~;-D

     

    #39556

    Driverinthedank
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    i have lived in a hot and semi humid place and a hot and dry place. i personally do not like to spray at night because i feel it makes more suspeptable to powdery mildew. i like a good spray right when the lights come on. it is not to hot in the room and it seems to mimic the morning dew. i also like to spray in the middle of light cycle when its hot to help cool down the air a bit. i have never had leaf burn from foliar spray/lights combination. if your plants are burning from the light with foliar spray i would have to say your lights are too close or your out take exhaust fan for the heat is not quite strong enough. when one does at night cycle spray, one risk light seeping in on accident which can cause unwanted hermaphrodites as well. there is enough work when the lights are on,  i like to rest when the plants rest, thats my moto. )

    #39557

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Good thinking DintheDank, and thank u for always dropping honest knowledge.Foliar spraying during the night cycle is a NO NO. Definitely not worth interrupting the night cycle and causing stress which might cause Hermies ~~~;-(.
    When you spray with the lights on just be careful not to spray your bulbs directly.

    #39559

    groninja
    Participant

    Thanks so much for the thoughtful responses. This information backs up much of what I understand. I keep a tight ship as far as unwanted light goes entering a night cycle. So Braveheart are you saying it’s a big no no to spray during the night cycle of a flowering garden period? I am not worried about PM or being able to control hot or humid conditions.  In the past I have always kept higher temps during veg and early flower which has helped me grow much bigger and better yields. 85-89 degrees.  Since I am now implementing a foliar application of HnQ, azamax & ogT Vgss could these aggressive temps be causing the leaf burn?

    Also how exactly do you spray the plant? Light mist on what you can reach or tops, bottoms of leaf, stems very thoroughly drenched?

    #39560

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    When I foliar spray I Cover the plant totally, each side of the leaf and all the stems and branches, where there’s a nice light drip. I foliar spray with HnQ up until day 14 in the flower cycle.
    GroNinja, I guess were just saying if you do spray during the night in the flower cycle, be careful of PM and interrupting the light cycle. If you have those two things covered, go for it. For myself personally I move my plants away from the lights, spray and drench them, let them dry for a bit and then move them back under the light. If you can’t do that or are worried of pm, or light stress, sounds the safest to spray right when the lights turn on.

    Are you using OG Tea in your soil when you water with nutrients and when you foliar?

    #39561

    groninja
    Participant

    Yes og tea soil drench and foliar.  Thanks for taking the time to explain.

    #39562

    Driverinthedank
    Participant

    If you spray during lights on make sure bulb has cover so water doesn’t hit bulb and shatter it, or move plants like braveheart. There is so much mis-information on ganja growing an its mainly the fault of the magazines Eric because they changes techniques every few years to sell magazines. People have got to get back to the basics. If you have to spray azamax more than once in flowering, your plant should not be in flower then. Yes you can spray but technically you really should’t. I never spray azamax in flowering. As for the burn….plant sleep at night, they ripen etc at night and grow during day. So when you spray these nutrients on at night your plant metabolism is turned off but yet your feeding it causing issues. Spray in morning so your plants can use all those nutrients you just gave it that day.  Foliage feeding is meant as a supplement so spray once or twice a week all over plant. Also when you spray on the same day as watering it can show as burns or issues because plant of saturated in water. Spray on off watering days. Last day I foliage feed bloom room is the first day of third week. If you are have pest issues in bloom room where azamax is needed one needs to negative pressurize the room and this helps tremendously. Also with the right nutrients etc the pest will naturally stay gone.

    #39565

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    HELL YA GroBro,
    And to follow up on that if your foliar spraying, be careful not to double up on products. Is what I mean is if your giving your plants a root drench with seaweed in it, be careful of foliar spraying with seaweed the next few days or even week, you don’t want to burn your plants from over fertilizing.

    #39568

    groninja
    Participant

    Thanks so much for covering many points here. Very much appreciated!! Got a new regiment now in place. I also add a wetting agent to my foliar mix such as Cocowet. Do you think this is necessary?  Im also wondering how long a mix of HnQ and Azamaz for example can be reused. Say I mixed a gallon into my sprayer and want to use the remainder on another garden the next day.  Would this still be acceptable? Also 1 more question is it necessary to PH the water or solution for a foliar feed? Just trying to cover all my bases here.

    #39569

    GreenDream
    Participant

    Wadup Growninja! Long time no see, lol. Lot of quilty info. huh!?! I love it! My home away from home. I ph at 5.7-5.8. It seems to be best absorbed at that ph.

    You know how I do it. Right before the lights come on and move the plants away from light with them as far up as possible. I figure when you foliar feed it absorbs very fast almost as quick as vegamatrix speed. So, hitting them as soon or right before the lights turn on your letting them metabolize all the goodness you hit them with, ya know!?! I try and do that with my root drenches as well.

    #39570

    Driverinthedank
    Participant

    i personally never ph test my foliar spray. but if i had to guess if you were going to ph it i would do it to around 5.6 because that is what natural rain is around.  As far as the wetting agent, if your using a soilless mix you don’t need a wetting agent. if your using soil, it is personal preference. when i use to grow in soil and wanted a wetting agent i would just use a few drops a original dawn dish soap. i generally won’t use a spray after 12 hours.

    #39571

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Great information and teaching GroBro’s, CRUSHED this thread!!! ~~~;-D

    #39575

    GreenDream
    Participant

    Killed it! Chalk one up for the GREEN Team.

    #39581

    groninja
    Participant

    Thanks a ton guys!  Getting all this gold from the pros making the switch from synthetic to Veganics much more comfortable.  I’m using Vegamatrix line in a hydro setup with Rockwool and so far so good. Everything is very healthy and flourishing in week 1 bloom. I’m just hoping I’ll be able to achieve similar or better yields with veganics. Any critical advice for veganic Rockwool I’m all ears.

    #41609

    zap1969
    Participant

    Hey D., how are you ? a friend bought me a spliffin vape from Co. i was shocked to find that it only has 20% oil the rest is VG and PG? I don’t  like that but from what i have read the oil will not vape correctly full strength. Then i read that some vapes have more voltage but i have not read if you can use full strength ? I have been looking at the bubbleflow system because i need allot more to make my 90 grams of oil. I do have a very hard time with the soil less because of my back and exhaustion.So tell me honestly what is your opinion about this ? I trust you, i asked LSG to see what he would say but got no answer. You know how sick i am and i really don’t care about anyones agender to be famous or rich just getting well and helping others. I have one person i know with cancer and i help them now as you help me.  Nothing would make me happier than to help others and i have been like this forever and i will always be like this. I always have helped people and animals,this is what is important to me. This is why i will never be rich, i do not judge anyone i give everyone the benefit of doubt boy do i get ripped off all the time. The ones that don’t cheat me makes it worth it.OK enough of my soap box, just babbling,i do like eating weed way more than smoking it makes me feel better than anything i have ever had, anything.

    Peace,Aguri, Z

    #41611

    TheFloridian
    Participant

    I’m a little concerned because every time I mix up H&Q with RO water it PH’s between 5.1-5.3, so I end up adding PH up. Any suggestions?

    #41655

    esta
    Participant

    groninja, what is your hydroponic system that you are using???

    #41745

    esta
    Participant

    groninja???????????????

    #41759

    GreenDream
    Participant

    He’s no longer a part of this forum…

    #41760

    GreenDream
    Participant

    He was hand feeding on top of the rock wool.  He didn’t achieve the yields he was use to so, he went back to his normal food.  He did keep the Hard and Quick going.  Said he thinks it aided his yields even more.  Last time I checked he was almost 3 per 1000!

    #41761

    GreenDream
    Participant

    I have to say I’m losing interest in this site.  To many changes and nobody on here.  It would be cool to hear from Brave and Kushman every once and a while.  Ya know!?!

    #41762

    esta
    Participant

    Thank you, GreenDream.
    Totally agree with you about your last message. But man, if you grow make a thread 😉

    #41907

    LightSpeedGrows
    Keymaster

    Hey guys,

    We are here and checking but no one seems to be starting new threads! What would you guys like to see, any problems or new lines you’d like info on?

    #41908

    esta
    Participant

    I wanna see veganic frosty buds.

    #41909

    LightSpeedGrows
    Keymaster

    I will make that happen esta! I have some great pictures to drop. I think it should be under a new tab of veganic crop shots!

    #41914

    esta
    Participant

    thump up.

    #41916

    esta
    Participant

    Oh and threads, it would like to see much more threads on this forum. It’s been too long we have not seen threadssssss(plural, you know what I mean).

    #41918

    LightSpeedGrows
    Keymaster

    what would you like to see? Everyone has the ability to post what they want!

    #41919

    LightSpeedGrows
    Keymaster

    what would you like to see? Everyone has the ability to post what they want!

    #41921

    esta
    Participant

    I wrote it threads, I wanna see veganic threads from seed to smoke with micro/macro (buds) shots.

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