feeding questions

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  • #25850

    djredsnapper
    Participant

    It will be a Grow, Bloom, and a Boost. We’ll be offering a micro-nutrient additive. as well as our own Enzyme, Foliar Stimulant, and Flowering Stimulant…:-)

    #26250

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Be careful about peopl making up lingo and calling it science. The food you provide to the soil IS food for the plants. The idea is to create a thriving root-soil foodweb by consistant reinocculation with microbes. This supercharges the soil with microbial life. Creating a symbiotic relationship between the rhizospere and the plant. Making it possible to do the same work(growth) with less nutrients. Flushing at the end of the cycle is always advisable. But you’ll only need a week to 10 days for vegnics…:-)

    #26185

    Talltines23
    Participant

    How many parts will your line be? Will it be economical for the small time grower? And, will it be a full line that will include all the macro and micro demands of cannabis? Or, is the addition of cal/mag, silicon, etc… still going to be needed? Sorry for all the questions but I don’t want to buy a gallon of calmag and such if i won’t be needing it soon.

    #26182

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    It will be a Grow, Bloom, and a Boost. We’ll be offering a micro-nutrient additive. as well as our own Enzyme, Foliar Stimulant, and Flowering Stimulant…:-)

    #26267

    Talltines23
    Participant

    Perfect so it will cover all bases, How about that price point?

    #26284

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    We’re still working on it Braugh…:-)

    #26291

    cultivator
    Participant

    Nice! Sounds like you did it right, can’t wait but I’m gonna have too.

    #26308

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Oh Yeah, you’re gauranteed to love it…:-)

    #26445

    veganic401
    Participant

    Hey Kyle is there going to be cal mg in your line too or will it be in the bloom!!! Thanks

    #26487

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    It’s in the BOOST…:-)

    #26547

    idicamanhere
    Participant

    hey kyle how are you. so once your full line as been purchased there will be no need for other additives or teas of any kind is that right and will you veganic nutes come with a feeding schedule? cheers CANT WAIT 😀

    #26598

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Vegamatrix is a complete nutrient. Humic, fulvic, aminos, vitamins, micros, it’s all in the Grow, Bloom, and Boost. You will still need to add beneficial microbes and fungi through the use of microbe teas…:-)

    #26613

    idicamanhere
    Participant

    are you looking into making your own teas kyle

    #26629

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    I’m fully supporting my friend Web and his new line of beneficial’s from OG-Tea…:-)
    http://www.OGTea.com

    #26635

    idicamanhere
    Participant

    good business kyle 😎

    #26638

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    It’s a GREAT microbial inoculant…:-)

    #26673

    lilandy
    Participant

    Kyle when should I use the nectors natures nitrogen

    #26686

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    It Depends Andy. What else are you using?
    I used Natures Nectar Nitrogen to augment Bio-Grow in very high yield situations…:-)

    #26755

    lilandy
    Participant

    Ya sorry kyle I’m using bio canna should it be from middle veg to second week of flowering

    #26776

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Your correct Andy. Except when growing Sativas, keep the NN Nitrogen flowing through week 4…:-)

    #26780

    veganic401
    Participant

    Hey Kyle when you prune all the under growth what week do you you do that before flower and how much cannapee should I leave thanks man!!

    #26781

    veganic401
    Participant

    Sorry about the spelling eras

    #26789

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    I begin removing obviously unnecessary undergrowth as soon as soon as it’s appropriate. Actual supercropping of extra nodes and branches begins about a week or two before flowering. This is when I clean away all nodes on every branch, all the way to the tip. Try not to damage any of the leaves along the way. Every one increases the surface area of your “solar array.”

    Then about a week into flowering I clean away all the nodes that have regrown. This time leave three nodes from the tip and this will become your cola. If I’m growing a serious sativa I’ll clean her all the way to the tips again…;-)

    #26802

    veganic401
    Participant

    Thanks!!! also do you think cannazyme is veganic all it consist of is 14 enzymes and cellulose

    #26818

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Every enzymatic product I’ve seen is Veganic no animals in there…;-)

    #26849

    mr.green
    Participant

    Kyle, all, a question regarding: feeding.

    I use biocanna, a humic acid product, black strap molasses, bountea, some organica products, etc . I have two separate teas running at all times, one for flower and one for veg. I make my teas like a genie, following ml per gallon.

    come water time, I fill up a five gallon home depot bucket with pure water, making sure to leave room at the top. I then use a milk carton and extract tea from my compost tea maker. I add the tea to the pure water, adjust ph and that’s my feed. sometimes adding more or less tea. am I shooting in the dark too much? I’ve been going by what the plant tells me. People around here tell me I’m better off owning a Bluelab Truncheon nutrient meter

    what do you guys have to say!
    peace

    #26857

    mr.green
    Participant

    also, here is what goes into the love potion
    veg- black strap m, bioncannaveg, Organica:bioMatrix, the original pure blend grow(botanicare), bountea system, plant success, soluble seaweed, natures nectar potassium, h20 oxidizer, tm-7(soluble humic acid concentrate with seven micro nutes)

    BLOOM- black strap molasses. BioCannaFloresBoost, the original pure blend bloom(botanicare) Boutea bloom along with the already stated veg nutes.

    am I over combining nutes anywhere?

    #26864

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    You might be overdoing the base nutrients by using two, Bio Canna and Pure-Blend. You should definitely purchase a Truncheon so you can be sure your not overfeeding. Other than that, looks like a killer recipe…:-)

    #27927

    iriegreen
    Participant

    Hi Kyle!
    Thanks for all the amazing info by the way, you,Brave heart, and the community have aided my partner and I quite a lot! But you started it all for us. 🙂 Anyway, About something you said in this thread, “I begin removing obviously unnecessary undergrowth as soon as soon as it’s appropriate. “
    I am reading this as you clean off little nodes not leafs…. correct??

    What determines the timing is “APPROPRIATE” ??? some level of growth?

    Thanks for your knowledge! Viva Veganics!

    #27999

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    I suggest you look through my photo’s on my Facebook page. specifically the folder labeled Supercropping. That’ll give you some good visuals.
    Several important points to remember:
    Leaves are solar reflectors. Only remove interior leaves which are covering several other leaves and/or nodes. If you remove a leaf and it lets light hit the dirt that’s bad. If the light still hits vegetation it will cause those points to grow.
    Go easy until plants are well established and growing rapidly.
    Node removal should be done 1-2 weeks before flowering. Removing all nodes, but leave the leaves. You will repeat node removal at 1 week into flowering for indicas and 2 weeks for sativa strains. But this time leave 3 nodes from the tip on every branch.
    Now you’ll have nothing but chunk…:-)

    #28016

    organiclover
    Participant

    Do we have to wait until September for vegamatrix?
    I am sooooo excited

    #28017

    iriegreen
    Participant

    Sorry to make you repeat yourself, But I definitely get it now.
    I am glad I can check out your FB pics without being a facebooker too!

    🙂

    #28037

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Supercropping is an art form. With practice you will achieve AMAZING yield increases…:-)

    #28143

    sleeze
    Participant

    what up Kyle I was just wondering at what rate I should be running the nn N at with the vega I don’t want to over do it and burn them t and also what weeks I should start adding the nn N thanks and just the rates for a standard indicia

    #28147

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Grow Broski Sleeze Dawg, Big hugs ~~~;-D It sure is nice to see you hanging out!!! “VegaMatrix coming soon to a garden near you”.

    #28149

    sleeze
    Participant

    Its good to see your still online and yes I cant wait to try out the vegamatrix Much love from Montana

    #28178

    Kyle Kushman
    Keymaster

    Natures Nectar Nitrogen is there as an augmentation if you see yellowing. I’ve used it at full strength along with full strength Bio-Grow. I’ve also used up to double strength Bio-Grow. Usually at full strength NN and Bio-Grow for last week or two of vegging and first week or two of flowering. Then back down to one or the other at full strength for another week before cutting it out completely.

    That’s why I’ve developed my own. Canna is not STRONG or COMPLETE enough. It’s taken over 2 years but Vegamatrix will hit the stores in September….maybe October…:-)

    #34977

    sleeze
    Participant

    thank you and I cant wait to make the switch who would my local shop have to talk to too get it in there store

    #28227

    sleeze
    Participant

    thank you and I cant wait to make the switch who would my local shop have to talk to too get it in there store

    #28244

    sleeze
    Participant

    sorry about my computer qlitching out and posting that 10 times I tried to delete a few of them but I don’t think I can

    #28263

    siccmade
    Participant

    Is it gonna b September

    #28438

    bahaga
    Participant

    Well its October 20th .. Would love to see Kyles Veganic line :)???

    #28738

    D-man
    Participant

    Anyone with experience with autos have recommendations for the amount of Flora Nova one part Grow on HBD auto and Blue Cheese Autos? They are only one week in veg, and I get different opinions on the amount to use. I am interested more about after the seedling stage. Autos- light or heavy feedings in both veg and bloom? They are a bird of a different feather!

    #28776

    cultivator
    Participant

    Hi kyle ,i have a feeding question regarding humic and fulvic I’m using humax and grandma engys the directions say monthly application .how many ml per gal. shoulld i apply and how often . during veg and flowering ?once. a wk? I have been giving 25 30 ml once a wk during flowering til about wk 5 and six

    #28777

    cultivator
    Participant

    I follow your feeding regim.ens usisin bio cana humboldt seaweed and all u have recommended . i omit every thing at about 45 48 days.i keep og tes

    #28778

    cultivator
    Participant

    I flushed with only hygrozyme the night before my harvest and my herb is very harsh i cough like crazy …is this bectause of the hygrozyme?thanx fo your help.

    #28781

    esta
    Participant

    i don’t know but don’t flush with enzymes. Flush with RO water for at least 14 days.Some people flush with water and molasse(i heard that it gives a good sugary taste, i don’t if it’s true, but you should try it and you’ll know it).

    #28195

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Cultivator, did you flush all the way till the end with enzymes?

    #35517

    cultivator
    Participant

    Yes i did real bad move

    #35494

    GreenDream
    Participant

    Hygrozime and og tea once or twice then clean water works for me. I’ve also been using Trinity from Roots Organic’s line the first couple watering as well for a sweetener. I don’t think hygrozime should really be absorbed as a nuitrient though. Maybe if there still some residule N in your medium it will countinue to break it down and be absorbed.

    How do you handle your flush Brave?

    #32045

    joganics
    Participant

    Kyle, Congratulations on the new line! Already received it in the mail and cannot wait to start using it. Need some advice tho. I have been using bio bizz now for about 4 years and been focusing on using only vegan products. No poo’s or anything. So I’ve pretty much mastered all stages up to about week 4-5 in flower and at this point I am seeing too much green foliage turn yellow and fall off. I’ve been following the Bio Bizz feed recommendations, using OGtea regularly, SLF-100 once a week, and will rotate in soluble seaweed and DTE soluble root zone all in TGA base soil. I have tried less fertilizer and even tried more. Have tested soil for NPK content but still cannot seem to keep plants green until the end similar to your examples. I have however achieved super high quality results at the end (LA Chocolate tested 25.7!) but I know the plants can stay a little more healthy all the way through. Any thoughts? Thanks!

    #34997

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Hey GrowBro’s, whats happening, I was at the Maximum Yield show this weekend. I like to begin my flush 3 weeks before harvesting. The third week I go half strength on all nutrients, the second week I like to use prime-zyme, molasses and Pure from OG Tea. The third week the plants are pounding water like a bunch of college jocks drinking brewski’s ~~~;-D.

    #39416

    Singhikwal
    Participant

    I am just starting off using vegamatrix, got the box from you guys at the Sonoma cup. If I am growing in a 5 gallon pot and I am in week 6 of veg, would I mix 10ml of  grow, 5ml of bloom, 5ml of boost, 15 ml of prime zyme and 1 ml of amp it in one gallon of water and then feed that whole gallon to that 5 gallon pot? Definitely a beginner grower and would love to continue using vegamatrix. Seems to be a great product from all my research.

    #39417

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    Thats it Singhikwal, just make sure to shake each bottle, measure each nutrient separately and add to your water seperatlety and your all set. We suggest using a microbial tea/ inoculant to kick VegaMatrix into high gear. Good luck with your first grow, it was definitely a GREAT TIME at the Santa Rosa Cannabis Cup, Kyle and I talked to so many good growers from the Emerald Triangle, GROBRO’s are in the Triangle that’s for sure.

    #39420

    Singhikwal
    Participant

    Thank you very much for your help braveheart. I have another question, If I am growing in a 20 gallon pot how many gallons of water should I use to feed them the vegamatrix with? Thanx again for all your help!

    #39421

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    You are very welcome Singhikwal, I believe you should at least feed a 20 gallon pot with full roots every other day at least 10 % of the volume of soil- 2 gallons. If you notice that your plants are uptaking more water and nutrients faster and seem to be to dry then you can add more water from there so you can gauge how much water and nutrients you are using.

    #39441

    Singhikwal
    Participant

    Whatz up Braveheart! Currently my feeding schedule is water, then three days later feed and then three days later water again. Is that a schedule or should I change it? Thanx GroBro!

    #39442

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    That Sounds Propah Podnah ~~~;-D Nice, Nice

    #39463

    Singhikwal
    Participant

    Thanks Braveheart. When i water with pryme zyme would it be ok to add terpinator to that as well?

    #39464

    BRAVEHEART
    Participant

    I’ve only heard good things about Terpinator and it’s formula is supposed to be all plant extracts and completely organic/ veganic.
    Remember to always give a plain water flush from time to time. Helps keep the soil happy and everything working properly ~~~;-D

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